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Full SVN support

Floren Munteanu
I intend to speak at the next Zendcon conference about Nginx and its
advantages.
However, the biggest turnoff for developers would be Nginx not being
capable to fully support all SVN methods.

Are there any plans related to this matter, Igor?

Regards,

Floren Munteanu



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Re: Full SVN support

Michael Shadle
+1

this has been on my wishlist too.

Not to put all the pressure on Igor either, anyone can obviously
contribute code towards it... sometimes I feel like we're constantly
asking for more more more. If I knew any C I'd try my best to help.

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Floren Munteanu <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I intend to speak at the next Zendcon conference about Nginx and its
> advantages.
> However, the biggest turnoff for developers would be Nginx not being
> capable to fully support all SVN methods.
>
> Are there any plans related to this matter, Igor?
>
> Regards,
>
> Floren Munteanu
>
>
>
>

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Re: Full SVN support

Igor Sysoev
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:03:45PM -0400, Floren Munteanu wrote:

> I intend to speak at the next Zendcon conference about Nginx and its
> advantages.
> However, the biggest turnoff for developers would be Nginx not being
> capable to fully support all SVN methods.
>
> Are there any plans related to this matter, Igor?

At least not in foreseeable future.
I do not see any perfomance benefits of SVN in nginx.


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Igor Sysoev
http://sysoev.ru/en/

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Re: Full SVN support

Chris Cortese
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Git
Michael Shadle wrote:

> +1
>
> this has been on my wishlist too.
>
> Not to put all the pressure on Igor either, anyone can obviously
> contribute code towards it... sometimes I feel like we're constantly
> asking for more more more. If I knew any C I'd try my best to help.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Floren Munteanu <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> I intend to speak at the next Zendcon conference about Nginx and its
>> advantages.
>> However, the biggest turnoff for developers would be Nginx not being
>> capable to fully support all SVN methods.
>>
>> Are there any plans related to this matter, Igor?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Floren Munteanu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>
>  


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Re: Full SVN support

Michael Shadle
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2009/5/25 Igor Sysoev <[hidden email]>:

> At least not in foreseeable future.
> I do not see any perfomance benefits of SVN in nginx.

It's not really performance benefits but simplifying the software stack.

Why involve nginx+proxy to Apache if nginx could handle both?

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Re: Full SVN support

Johan Bergström
Hey,

On May 25, 2009, at 20:57 , Michael Shadle wrote:

> 2009/5/25 Igor Sysoev <[hidden email]>:
>
>> At least not in foreseeable future.
>> I do not see any perfomance benefits of SVN in nginx.
>
> It's not really performance benefits but simplifying the software  
> stack.
>
> Why involve nginx+proxy to Apache if nginx could handle both?
>

Why involve a http stack at all when svn or svn+ssh can handle this  
for you?
Point is: No software covers your individual need, thats why you use  
more than one application.

If people are _desperate_ for this, I can't see any issues with paying  
for a patch?

Regards,
Johan

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Re: Full SVN support

Floren Munteanu
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Hi Igor,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Sysoev [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Posted At: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:33 PM
> Posted To: gmane.comp.web.nginx.english
> Conversation: Full SVN support
> Subject: Re: Full SVN support
>
> At least not in foreseeable future.
> I do not see any perfomance benefits of SVN in nginx.

I believe we all want to completely remove the Apache interaction with
our servers.
I know I do. So that's why I'm interested to have SVN fully working with
Nginx.

Regards,

Floren



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Re: Full SVN support

Michael Shadle
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2009/5/25 Johan Bergström <[hidden email]>:

> Why involve a http stack at all when svn or svn+ssh can handle this for you?
> Point is: No software covers your individual need, thats why you use more
> than one application.

There are certain programs that work better with svn over http, I do
not believe Eclipse easily works using svn+ssh, especially when it
comes to complicated firewall setups.

More applications creates more maintenance and administration. More
points for failure. etc. Installing Apache, it's libraries and it's
memory footprint and such just for SVN is annoying, and all of us
would prefer to keep our software stack as slim as possible. I'm not
asking nginx to make me a cup of coffee, I just think someone should
be able to extend it enough to handle the missing components so it can
be used (optionally, as a module of course) into nginx.

> If people are _desperate_ for this, I can't see any issues with paying for a
> patch?

I've already put forth funds for some other nginx modules, and it
comes from my own pocket. Currently I am funding a module for
SPNEGO/Kerberos/GSSAPI support so nginx can be adopted inside of
enterprises with IE/Firefox single sign-on domain authentication
support.

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Re: Full SVN support

Floren Munteanu
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Hi Johan,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Bergström [mailto:johan-
> [hidden email]]
> Posted At: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:22 PM Posted To:
> gmane.comp.web.nginx.english
> Conversation: Full SVN support
> Subject: Re: Full SVN support
>
> If people are _desperate_ for this, I can't see any issues with paying

> for a patch?

I donated several hundreds of dollars to Igor, for his amazing work.
I presume we all did, right?

Regards,

Floren Munteanu
Axivo Inc.



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Re: Full SVN support

Michael Shadle
At some point maybe I can rally funds for igor himself. He's on my  
list. Much easier for companies to give money than individuals. I  
would like to get my company to donate. I'll have to wait until next  
quarter though for more budget.

On May 25, 2009, at 1:46 PM, "Floren Munteanu" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Johan,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Johan Bergström [mailto:johan-
>> [hidden email]]
>> Posted At: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:22 PM Posted To:
>> gmane.comp.web.nginx.english
>> Conversation: Full SVN support
>> Subject: Re: Full SVN support
>>
>> If people are _desperate_ for this, I can't see any issues with  
>> paying
>
>> for a patch?
>
> I donated several hundreds of dollars to Igor, for his amazing work.
> I presume we all did, right?
>
> Regards,
>
> Floren Munteanu
> Axivo Inc.
>
>
>

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Re: Full SVN support

Johan Bergström
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Floren,

On May 25, 2009, at 22:46 , Floren Munteanu wrote:

> Hi Johan,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Johan Bergström [mailto:johan-
>> [hidden email]]
>> Posted At: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:22 PM Posted To:
>> gmane.comp.web.nginx.english
>> Conversation: Full SVN support
>> Subject: Re: Full SVN support
>>
>> If people are _desperate_ for this, I can't see any issues with  
>> paying
>
>> for a patch?
>
> I donated several hundreds of dollars to Igor, for his amazing work.
> I presume we all did, right?

And I thank you for your donation since it probably gave me features  
that otherwise wouldn't be available.
I'm not trying to blame anyone for asking, I just feel that this  
discussion has been done before.

>
> Regards,
>
> Floren Munteanu
> Axivo Inc.
>
>
>

Thanks,
Johan